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Page Numbers Source ISBN: 0268021988

Publisher: University of Notre Dame Press (February 28, 2003)

Publication Date: March 15, 2016

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I found this book a refreshing change from the general run of anti-atheist books that accuse atheists of being intellectual lightweights who deny God for moral rather than rational reasons (to be fair, many “new atheist” books commit the same crime in reverse). Barr thinks that scientific materialists are wrong, but doesn’t condescend to them, and avoids polemic for the most part. He also seems to know his science, although I will take issue with him on a few points (see below). In addition to providing philosophical food for thought, the book made me want to read more about some of its subtopics (quantum theory, philosophy of mind, etc.). It is very well-written, and I found it both more readable and more interesting than other books of this type that I have read.Some other reviewers have criticized Barr for starting out with a “typical” (rather than an actual) quote from an imaginary scientific materialist, and then refuting it in strawman fashion. Although it’s certainly true that not all atheists take such an extreme view (I am one who doesn’t), I personally know many who would agree with everything in Barr’s “quote”, and it would not be at all out of place in Alex Rosenberg’s “Atheist Guide to Reality”. If anything, Rosenberg is even more extreme.However, I do have some quibbles. First of all, Barr cites Michael Behe and his “irreducible complexities” as potential evidence for his position that the universe was “designed”. However, to the best of my knowledge, Behe was thoroughly discredited at the Kitzmiller vs. Dover Area School District trial in 2005 (to be fair, Barr’s book was originally published in 2003), and is not taken seriously by the general scientific community. But this may only show that a physicist (like Barr) is not necessarily an expert in biology (just as scientists like Dawkins and Hawking (and Barr as well!) need to be taken with a grain of salt when they start talking philosophy/theology).More seriously, he seems to think that “anthropic coincidences” are strong evidence of intelligent design, and that only an infinity of actual universes would constitute a serious objection. I think he (like many others) badly misunderstands this argument, and I contend that we need only consider “possible” universes. Suppose, on one hand, that the particular laws of physics and the values of the various physical constants that we have in our universe are the only ones possible. In this case, there is no “coincidence” and no “choice” (these are among several loaded words – “special” is another one -- that Barr likes to use). Suppose, on the other hand, that the potential laws and constants are unconstrained, and could take any values whatsoever, and that consequently there are an infinity of possible universes. Given the existence of any universe at all (and why there is any universe at all might be a more interesting question, but one that is not addressed in this book), it had to have some configuration of physical laws and constants. Why this particular one? Well, why not this particular one? It’s no more unlikely and no more “special” than any of the others! It’s the one we happen to have, and if it were otherwise, we wouldn’t be here to discuss it. So what? We only consider it “special” because we’re biased. This whole argument reminds me of the atheist “parable” about the puddle of water marveling at the amazing coincidence that “This hole in the road is just the right size and shape for me!” You can’t apply probability after the fact. Improbable things happen all the time (to take just one example, you’re basically throwing money away if you buy a lottery ticket, and yet, every week or two, someone actually does win the lottery). It doesn’t matter how improbable our universe is, or that life originated. It happened, and as soon as it did, the probability “collapsed” to 100%.So I think Barr’s case is not nearly as strong as he thinks it is. But neither is the case of the materialist side, and he does a good job of demonstrating that. I remain an agnostic atheist who doesn’t think the existence of God can be either proven or disproven. This book didn’t change my beliefs, but it did give me a lot of food for thought.

Modern Physics and Ancient FaithStephen M. BarrMany Christians struggle with reconciling what modern scientists say about the origin and nature of the world with what the Scriptures tell us. Should we take the Scriptures as our primary source, or what scientist say? Dr. Barr attempts to provide a "middle ground," that takes both current scientific belief and what the Scriptures say seriously. Modern Physics is arranged around four major discoveries, or rather shifts in the common beliefs of scientists, that underpin or support theistic belief, specifically Judeo-Christian belief.The author begins his book with a solid overview of materialistic thinking."This view of dogma as anti-rational is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of what religious dogmas are. It is thought that the basis of dogma is emotion. ... To a religious person, however, a dogma is not something that is embraced from mere hidebound habit or feeling or wishful thinking, rather it is understood to be a true proposition for which there is the best of all possible evidence, namely that its truth has been revealed by God. -Page 11"He then moves into the first of the four "big discoveries," the Big Bang. The author defends the Big Bang theory from several angles; this is probably one of the strongest defenses of the theory you'll find in print in layman's terms. He does slip here, though, in a major way --for Dr. Barr's "blending" of the Scriptures and scientific thought leads him to the conclusion that the Scriptures are, after all, not written to express truth in a "scientific way." In other words, the author embraces the view that the Scriptures can be relied on to tell us the truth about our souls, but only science can be relied on to tell us the truth about the world.The second "big discovery," the author dives in to is the connection between order and design. Here Dr. Barr is on solid ground, making solid points in favor of Christian thought. His general line of argument is that all "natural order," is really the result of some underlying design, or "more complete order." For instance, when you arrange marbles in a box, they fall into a certain symmetrical shape --but they only do this because their underlying shape is even more symmetrical than the shape produced in the arrangement.Man's place in the Cosmos is next up. This discussion is primarily about the physical location and relative size of man. The author argues that size and position don't really matter --and if they did, man is neither the smallest nor the largest among the created order, so there is little we can take away from where men and the Earth actually lie. The anthropocentric coincidences are then treated in a long and interesting discussion.The final "big discovery" the author discusses is quantum physics. Dr. Barr spends a good bit of time explaining the concept of quantum physics --this section will be very helpful for the reader who isn't versed in these concepts. He then works into how quantum theory relates to the concept of mind and knowing. Again, the author is on very strong ground when showing how the mind cannot be like a computer. His illustration of the maze and the processing of information within or outside the maze is very useful.Overall, this book makes solid arguments, perhaps providing some of the best arguments I've ever read in relation to the mind of man and the problems of materialistic thinking. The downside is his insistence on blending the Scriptures and modern scientific belief; anytime the Scriptures are blended with anything, the Scriptures always end up taking second place.

This is a very interesting book. I actually got a lot out of it as an introduction to advanced physics for laymen. The language is clear and analogies are well constructed in a way that allow a reasonably intelligent person (without an advanced science education) to understand.I found the religious implications the author tied to the science to be reasonably plausible, even if they weren't exactly convicting. The philosophy and history of thought on the implications of science was an unexpected bonus.If you are like I was, and didn't understand quantum physics or how things work at the sub atomic level beyond a high school understanding, you will probably be surprised by the science and the implications it has.It was an eye opening read, both mentally and philosophically.

The book is very clear and easy to follow, and Professor Barr is very careful to stick to just what the evidence shows and no more or less. The book includes many interesting stories about scientists and the history of science. Debates about whether religion and science are at odds often produce more heat than light, but this calm book is very informative, while telling the story of science and religion in the last century, without any animosity. I recommend it to anyone, whether religious or not!The latest edition has an updated preface explaining a few slight changes he would make to his claims, based on updated science.

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